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		<title>Comment on CSUNs in the shade by David Sloan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sloan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kelly

While I used CSUN as the topic of the post, the main objective was to talk about the influence an external definition of &#039;impact&#039; (i.e. not my own opinion) has on the conference attendance plans of academic researchers, rather than specifically critiquing CSUN&#039;s reviewing structure.

Perhaps I should clarify that when I said &quot;much less thorough&quot; I only meant the criteria by which I was asked to review each submission, not the paper selection process after reviewers&#039; comments were received (about which I can&#039;t comment as I wasn&#039;t involved in that stage).

I&#039;ll be be happy to offer CSUN my views on the reviewing process, but I&#039;ll say again that I&#039;m absolutely not on a crusade to change the conference - just curious to see how it could earn the impact (from a UK academic research perspective) it seems to deserve as an influential gathering of people in the accessibility/AT field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelly</p>
<p>While I used CSUN as the topic of the post, the main objective was to talk about the influence an external definition of &#8216;impact&#8217; (i.e. not my own opinion) has on the conference attendance plans of academic researchers, rather than specifically critiquing CSUN&#8217;s reviewing structure.</p>
<p>Perhaps I should clarify that when I said &#8220;much less thorough&#8221; I only meant the criteria by which I was asked to review each submission, not the paper selection process after reviewers&#8217; comments were received (about which I can&#8217;t comment as I wasn&#8217;t involved in that stage).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be be happy to offer CSUN my views on the reviewing process, but I&#8217;ll say again that I&#8217;m absolutely not on a crusade to change the conference &#8211; just curious to see how it could earn the impact (from a UK academic research perspective) it seems to deserve as an influential gathering of people in the accessibility/AT field.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSUNs in the shade by Kelly</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2011/03/14/csuns-in-the-shade/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,

You “found the review system [at CSUN] much less thorough than for other conferences I’ve reviewed for, that also seek to attract good accessibility and inclusive design research.” Yet, your post did not compare or contrast CSUN’s system for paper acceptance with some of the other conferences with which you had experience. What specifically should the CSUN organizers do differently to make the paper acceptance system much more rigorous and competetive? Also, it is a conference that industry and the broader disability community attends. How might innovation and unconventional ideas fare in an effort to elevate the quality of presentations?  New ideas may threaten certain interests.  The biggest example of this in recent years was the finding that coconut oil can reverse the effects or stop the progression of Altzheimer’s disease in some persons.  The doctor who would present this finding had her accepted paper yanked a week before an Altzheimer’s disease conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You “found the review system [at CSUN] much less thorough than for other conferences I’ve reviewed for, that also seek to attract good accessibility and inclusive design research.” Yet, your post did not compare or contrast CSUN’s system for paper acceptance with some of the other conferences with which you had experience. What specifically should the CSUN organizers do differently to make the paper acceptance system much more rigorous and competetive? Also, it is a conference that industry and the broader disability community attends. How might innovation and unconventional ideas fare in an effort to elevate the quality of presentations?  New ideas may threaten certain interests.  The biggest example of this in recent years was the finding that coconut oil can reverse the effects or stop the progression of Altzheimer’s disease in some persons.  The doctor who would present this finding had her accepted paper yanked a week before an Altzheimer’s disease conference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSUNs in the shade by David Sloan</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2011/03/14/csuns-in-the-shade/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sloan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kelly,

Thanks for the comment. I guess I was always open to the accusation that if I want to attend, I should pay my own way :) So if that&#039;s how you read this post, then fair enough.

However, two points:

1. This is absolutely not a cry about my employer&#039;s decision, whom I would never expect to pay for my trip. Funding for the research projects I work on comes with a travel budget - it&#039;s a question of how that budget is spent. And spending tends to be governed by how the research funding system measures impact, so choice of conference is driven by the credit we get for having a paper accepted. CSUN compares poorly with other conferences in terms of research impact, but the reason for writing the post was to ask whether that is justified.

2. I did not say that there would be mediocre presentations at CSUN 2011, and not being there in person, it&#039;s impossible for me to judge whether or not there will be. As a reviewer, it would also be unprofessional and unethical of me to tell you the details of any papers I didn&#039;t rate highly but have still been accepted. My point concerned the rigour of the reviewing system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelly,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I guess I was always open to the accusation that if I want to attend, I should pay my own way <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  So if that&#8217;s how you read this post, then fair enough.</p>
<p>However, two points:</p>
<p>1. This is absolutely not a cry about my employer&#8217;s decision, whom I would never expect to pay for my trip. Funding for the research projects I work on comes with a travel budget &#8211; it&#8217;s a question of how that budget is spent. And spending tends to be governed by how the research funding system measures impact, so choice of conference is driven by the credit we get for having a paper accepted. CSUN compares poorly with other conferences in terms of research impact, but the reason for writing the post was to ask whether that is justified.</p>
<p>2. I did not say that there would be mediocre presentations at CSUN 2011, and not being there in person, it&#8217;s impossible for me to judge whether or not there will be. As a reviewer, it would also be unprofessional and unethical of me to tell you the details of any papers I didn&#8217;t rate highly but have still been accepted. My point concerned the rigour of the reviewing system.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSUNs in the shade by Kelly</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2011/03/14/csuns-in-the-shade/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,

Rather than pose as a middle-class complainer, consider offering solutions to the organizers if you want change.  Deliver not a complaint but a proposed solution.  Realize of course that Northridge is not a top-tier academic institution. If you are expecting an experience at the level of UC Berkeley, University of Illinois at Urbana or MIT, it likely won’t happen from something emanating from Northridge.  

Also, if you believe the organizers let a number of mediocre people to present inconsequential topics, then name names and specify presentations. A complaint without clear examples is somewhat meaningless.  Who should not be at this year&#039;s CSUN and why?

It all seems to boil down to the fact that the CSUN conference isn’t worth spending your own money to attend. If you can’t go using other people’s money, then you won’t go.  Fair enough. It is silly though to cry about your employer’s decision publicly unless you have specific suggestions to change the conference that would enable your employer to pull out the checkbook.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Rather than pose as a middle-class complainer, consider offering solutions to the organizers if you want change.  Deliver not a complaint but a proposed solution.  Realize of course that Northridge is not a top-tier academic institution. If you are expecting an experience at the level of UC Berkeley, University of Illinois at Urbana or MIT, it likely won’t happen from something emanating from Northridge.  </p>
<p>Also, if you believe the organizers let a number of mediocre people to present inconsequential topics, then name names and specify presentations. A complaint without clear examples is somewhat meaningless.  Who should not be at this year&#8217;s CSUN and why?</p>
<p>It all seems to boil down to the fact that the CSUN conference isn’t worth spending your own money to attend. If you can’t go using other people’s money, then you won’t go.  Fair enough. It is silly though to cry about your employer’s decision publicly unless you have specific suggestions to change the conference that would enable your employer to pull out the checkbook.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web accessibility surveys &#8211; results are frequently disappointing by Alice Anderson</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2009/11/15/web-accessibility-surveys-results-are-frequently-disappointing/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have any leads on &#039;accessible web survey tools&#039; ... as I struggle (and have for the past 2 years) to find a web survey tool that people who use assistive technology can use - either as recipients of a survey, or to develop surveys - and be robust enough for researchers (data analysis).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have any leads on &#8216;accessible web survey tools&#8217; &#8230; as I struggle (and have for the past 2 years) to find a web survey tool that people who use assistive technology can use &#8211; either as recipients of a survey, or to develop surveys &#8211; and be robust enough for researchers (data analysis).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is &#8216;a11y&#8217; our ally? Thoughts on a tag for web accessibility by Cliff Tyllick</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2010/04/16/is-a11y-our-ally-thoughts-on-a-tag-for-web-accessibility/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff Tyllick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, David. To stir the pot once more, the promised annotations elude us, and the use of hashtags continues.

My main objection to a11y (along with its partners, i18n and l10n) is that it&#039;s a numeronym — a puzzle to be solved as a sort of initiation rite for the cult of the elite Web workers.

Yes, they save space. But they also confuse. And if we&#039;re going to concede that it&#039;s acceptable to confuse people to save space, why not use the hexadecimal counting system to really save space?

Instead of #a11y, write #aby.

Instead of #l10n, write #lan.

Instead of #i18n, write #i12n. (OK, so we don&#039;t save any space there, but, as they say, two out of three ain&#039;t bad.)

#AxS might never catch on. But even when people forget to capitalize its &quot;A&quot; and &quot;S,&quot; it looks and sounds more like part of what we&#039;re talking about.

I myself have lapsed back into generally using #a11y. But I really regret that the spirit of #i9y* wasn&#039;t a stronger factor the group — whoever it was — that decided that A-one-one-Y was the way to go.

Cheers!
Cliff

* That&#039;s &quot;inclusivity,&quot; which is said to be an important construct of our field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, David. To stir the pot once more, the promised annotations elude us, and the use of hashtags continues.</p>
<p>My main objection to a11y (along with its partners, i18n and l10n) is that it&#8217;s a numeronym — a puzzle to be solved as a sort of initiation rite for the cult of the elite Web workers.</p>
<p>Yes, they save space. But they also confuse. And if we&#8217;re going to concede that it&#8217;s acceptable to confuse people to save space, why not use the hexadecimal counting system to really save space?</p>
<p>Instead of #a11y, write #aby.</p>
<p>Instead of #l10n, write #lan.</p>
<p>Instead of #i18n, write #i12n. (OK, so we don&#8217;t save any space there, but, as they say, two out of three ain&#8217;t bad.)</p>
<p>#AxS might never catch on. But even when people forget to capitalize its &#8220;A&#8221; and &#8220;S,&#8221; it looks and sounds more like part of what we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>I myself have lapsed back into generally using #a11y. But I really regret that the spirit of #i9y* wasn&#8217;t a stronger factor the group — whoever it was — that decided that A-one-one-Y was the way to go.</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Cliff</p>
<p>* That&#8217;s &#8220;inclusivity,&#8221; which is said to be an important construct of our field.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is &#8216;a11y&#8217; our ally? Thoughts on a tag for web accessibility by Web Axe</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2010/04/16/is-a11y-our-ally-thoughts-on-a-tag-for-web-accessibility/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Web Axe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice write-up. I agree that &quot;#a11y&quot; is the least worst option. It seems to be the most practiced and recognized by those in the accessibility community.

PS: Iza, good point, but as far as I know, Twitter&#039;s annotations *still* haven&#039;t been implemented yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write-up. I agree that &#8220;#a11y&#8221; is the least worst option. It seems to be the most practiced and recognized by those in the accessibility community.</p>
<p>PS: Iza, good point, but as far as I know, Twitter&#8217;s annotations *still* haven&#8217;t been implemented yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Communicating accessibly by Gail Bradbrook</title>
		<link>http://58sound.com/2010/11/18/communicating-accessibly/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gail Bradbrook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog- it is really apprecaited. At Fix the Web we did have two accessibility audits and three rounds of bud / user testing..and still problems. I think it shows with the best will in the world things slip through.

And yes, we are beavering away to sort all the issues.

@fixthewebgail]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog- it is really apprecaited. At Fix the Web we did have two accessibility audits and three rounds of bud / user testing..and still problems. I think it shows with the best will in the world things slip through.</p>
<p>And yes, we are beavering away to sort all the issues.</p>
<p>@fixthewebgail</p>
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		<title>Comment on The role of accessibility in the usability profession today &#8211; and tomorrow by Юзабилити дайджест 13 &#124; Юзабилити, дизайн и проектирование.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Юзабилити дайджест 13 &#124; Юзабилити, дизайн и проектирование.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Роль accessability в юзабилити-профессии сегодня и завтра David Sloan размышляет о роли «доступности» в сегодняшней практике юзабилити. По сути, пост &#8211; это краткий пересказ того, о чем шла речь на панели на конференции UPA 2010 в Мюнхене. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Роль accessability в юзабилити-профессии сегодня и завтра David Sloan размышляет о роли «доступности» в сегодняшней практике юзабилити. По сути, пост &#8211; это краткий пересказ того, о чем шла речь на панели на конференции UPA 2010 в Мюнхене. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The role of accessibility in the usability profession today &#8211; and tomorrow by Cliff Tyllick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff Tyllick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, thanks for this synopsis of a too short but still highly helpful discussion. The answer is absolutely yes — we need accessibility specialists, and this knowledge is essential to anyone practicing usability.

Here&#039;s a parallel concept: Not everyone who practices usability is an expert in information architecture, but I think everyone would agree that the fundamental principles of information architecture are essential knowledge for usability professionals.

An important role of the information architect, then, is to develop new strategies for getting IA done right. Another important role is to educate the rest of us about the most useful of those strategies.

Similarly, it&#039;s important for everyone who works on the Web to know about accessibility and do their best to make their content and its features accessible. But most people can&#039;t review their design from the standpoint of all the different scenarios that can arise with respect to accessibility. That&#039;s one place where an accessibility expert can help.

Accessibility experts can also help people see the value of their efforts to make a document more accessible. Take your example of synchronized captioning. Most employees where I work are not provided computers with speakers. Some don&#039;t even have audio cards. How are they supposed to follow the sound track of a training video? Synchronized captioning would solve that.

Admittedly, that lack of hardware is becoming less of a problem as more older computers are being replaced. But what about someone who is constantly on the phone and works in a cube? Should they have to go back and forth from headphone to headset as they follow a video between calls? Synchronized captioning would remove that problem.

Just as with curb cuts for sidewalks, improvements to the accessibility of electronic information ease many predicaments beyond those of the targeted group. Helping the average practitioner see those benefits is an important part of the accessibility expert&#039;s role.

Think of the accessibility expert as mentor, guide, and coordinator. Others still need to do the work, but the expert shows them the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, thanks for this synopsis of a too short but still highly helpful discussion. The answer is absolutely yes — we need accessibility specialists, and this knowledge is essential to anyone practicing usability.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a parallel concept: Not everyone who practices usability is an expert in information architecture, but I think everyone would agree that the fundamental principles of information architecture are essential knowledge for usability professionals.</p>
<p>An important role of the information architect, then, is to develop new strategies for getting IA done right. Another important role is to educate the rest of us about the most useful of those strategies.</p>
<p>Similarly, it&#8217;s important for everyone who works on the Web to know about accessibility and do their best to make their content and its features accessible. But most people can&#8217;t review their design from the standpoint of all the different scenarios that can arise with respect to accessibility. That&#8217;s one place where an accessibility expert can help.</p>
<p>Accessibility experts can also help people see the value of their efforts to make a document more accessible. Take your example of synchronized captioning. Most employees where I work are not provided computers with speakers. Some don&#8217;t even have audio cards. How are they supposed to follow the sound track of a training video? Synchronized captioning would solve that.</p>
<p>Admittedly, that lack of hardware is becoming less of a problem as more older computers are being replaced. But what about someone who is constantly on the phone and works in a cube? Should they have to go back and forth from headphone to headset as they follow a video between calls? Synchronized captioning would remove that problem.</p>
<p>Just as with curb cuts for sidewalks, improvements to the accessibility of electronic information ease many predicaments beyond those of the targeted group. Helping the average practitioner see those benefits is an important part of the accessibility expert&#8217;s role.</p>
<p>Think of the accessibility expert as mentor, guide, and coordinator. Others still need to do the work, but the expert shows them the way.</p>
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